tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-646184666890750317.post1515150423712327950..comments2023-10-24T19:09:39.233+11:00Comments on Ampersand Etcetera: Music appsAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08954848174390846606noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-646184666890750317.post-6110167157118440842013-04-09T10:04:28.559+10:002013-04-09T10:04:28.559+10:00In terms of my "ephemeral explorations" ...In terms of my "ephemeral explorations" - the difference is that you (Dave) save your creations and also publish them. I have saved a couple but never go back to them & have only played the 'album' once.<br />But I agree they are beautiful music<br />And unfortunately for the iPhone you are still limited to the other Eno works (Bloom, Trope and to a lesser degree Air)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08954848174390846606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-646184666890750317.post-75592195854676351062013-04-08T04:44:37.040+10:002013-04-08T04:44:37.040+10:00>>>>>OK, I said that discussions wi...>>>>>OK, I said that discussions with Dave Stafford got me going again. I found him through Eno's/Childer's iPad music creator Scape - an amazing app which dave as a musician is playing/working/publishing with.<br /><br />Scape is a most remarkable tool, and I was extremely affected by it when I first started working with it in September / October 2012. I've since created well over 1000 "scapes" with it - and I never tire of the unique and beautiful pieces of music that it outputs...<br /><br />>>>>He wrote some fabulous pages describing his early experience with the instrument, and sort of reflected in this one<br />http://pureambient.wordpress.com/2013/03/11/generative-music-applications-mixtikl-and-scape/<br />It is a good read, but search for the earlier ones too.<br /><br />That's very kind of you Jeremy, but I would encourage iPhone and iPad users to try Scape for themselves - I think the fact that it appeals to a lot of different kinds of people, regardless of "musical experience" speaks volumes about what a beautiful, creative musical tool eno and chilvers have developed. it's really just a lovely, lovely sounding device.<br /><br />>>>>>Anyway, I find Scape fun and a way to create Enoesque transitory new works: unlike dave I see mine as ephemeral explorations.<br /><br />I don't really know what I see "Scapes" as except beautiful music - music that anyone can make - which is fantastic.<br /><br />>>>>I have also tried Mixtikl which he mentions (a spawn of the people behind Koan - who of you remembers that) and it is more complex but also interesting.<br /><br />Mixtikl is a degree of magnitude more confusing and difficult to use, and I would advise caution - you will need time and patience to conquer it's complexities - but, as always, there are great rewards to be had if you have the time and patience...<br /><br />>>>>There are many others, a few of which I have toyed with & sometimes make myself some noise with, but these are the stayers for the amateur music maker<br /><br />..or for musicians who want to experience the state of the art in generative music applications - these two tools are the best that we have at this point in time - but it will be very interesting to see what the next generation of generative music tools looks and sounds like - I can't wait!<br /><br />happy scaping...<br /><br /><br />dave stafford<br />pureambient.comdave staffordhttp://www.pureambient.comnoreply@blogger.com